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Ancient UFOs / After Disclosure

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Date: Sunday - October 24, 2010
Host: George Knapp
Guests: Jacques F. Vallee, Richard Dolan, Bryce Zabel

In the first half of the program, George Knapp was joined by legendary Ufologist Jacques Vallee for a discussion on UFO sightings from biblical-era antiquity through the year 1879. Over the course of the conversation, he also talked about remote viewing and provided his take on the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis (ETH), crash retrievals and disclosure. Contrary to the skeptics who discount 'classic' UFO sightings as mere folklore, Vallee declared that the detail and longevity of the cases merit a more serious examination. "For them to have been recorded, the way they were recorded, they had to be felt to be very important to that civilization," he said. Additionally, Vallee noted that most of the cases come from prominent officials like kings and bishops, since they were often the only people capable of actually documenting and preserving their sightings.

Detailing one of the cases profiled in the book, Vallee described a Chinese UFO sighting from 1277. In this case, the witness described a very bright star that appeared to have a dome above it, moved "in a zigzag, like a dead leaf," interacted with other flying objects, and disappeared almost instantly. Noting the similarity to contemporary UFO accounts, Vallee said, "I get letters like this from readers of my books today, with almost the same words." Having examined over 500 cases for his new book, the esteemed researcher confessed that "one of the secret pleasures of working with this material is to look at how people explained it." To that end, he observed that even during these classic cases, "there was always some 'wise guy' in the crowd who had an explanation," often ascribing a political or religious meaning to the event. "They had all these explanations, just like the Air Force today," mused Vallee.

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In the latter half of the show, Richard Dolan and Bryce Zabel, talked about their new book After Disclosure, which examines what life will be like after the reality of UFOs is revealed. Despite what has been a fruitless, decades-long fight for answers to the UFO enigma, the authors contended that disclosure is an inevitability. "There's going to be a time, a day, a moment, an event," Dolan said, "something in which the 'powers that be' are forced to make the decision to disclose." From there, Zabel surmised, "when they do decide they have to give it up, because events are spinning out of their own control, they'll try to manage it, even as it goes public." Having looked at the various possible scenarios where UFO disclosure becomes such a necessity, they determined that an incontrovertible, mass UFO sighting recorded by modern technology would be the most likely event.

Detailing how they think UFO disclosure would unfold, the authors speculated that the announcement may occur on a Friday afternoon. They theorized that this timing would be used to off-set a potentially catastrophic stock market reaction and to also allow for the general public to use the weekend to digest the stunning news. The duo traced the disclosure announcement from the first day, which they foresee as a time of confusion and potential panic, to the first week, when people would begin asking questions about why and how this news remained secret for so long. This call for accountability, they said, would result in a paradoxical relationship between society and the media, military, and government, where they would be blamed for "missing" the story but also looked to for answers and protection. Ultimately, Zabel and Dolan put forward the idea that, while the first post-disclosure year would be "a bumpy ride," society will eventually stabilize as it becomes acclimated to the new world that has emerged from beneath the veil of secrecy.

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Knapp's News 10/24/10

Knapp's News 10/24/10

A number of items have recently caught George Knapp's attention, including articles on animals with the longest lifespans, a court victory for brainwash victims, and a piece claiming that UFO disclosure has actually already happened:

Thanks to Bob K. for providing the image for this week's Knapp's News.

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