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Fatima Secrets

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Date: Thursday - October 9, 2008
Host: George Noory
Guests: Father Nicholas Gruner, R. Gary Patterson

Catholic priest, Fr. Nicholas Gruner of the Fatima Center discussed his research into the Third Secret of Fatima. He declared the alleged visitation by the Virgin Mary in 1917, and her message imparted to three young children, to be "the definitive revelation of our time."

Based on his research, he said that it is a misperception that the Virgin Mary bestowed three separate secrets. Instead, he claimed that the message is a sequential series of events with the infamous "third secret" being the conclusion. Detailing new information which suggests that the "official release" of the third secret by the Vatican in 2000 was actually incomplete, Gruner revealed that when Sister Lucia wrote down that portion of the prophecy, she divided it into two parts. "One is the words of 'Our Lady' and one is the vision," he said. According to him, the Catholic Church only released the description of the vision and not the words spoken by Mary.

Gruner talked at length about the suspicious treatment of the longest living survivor of the Fatima visitation, Sister Lucia, who died in 2005, nearly 90 years after the event. He asserted that "no other nun in the history of the Church has been so closely controlled as to who she saw." As evidence of this, he pointed out that she was not allowed to conduct any public interviews after 1957. He also cited testimony from Lucia's own sister, who said that the famous nun was never allowed any private time with visitors and could only speak with close family members.

Advising people on what to do if they want the third secret to be truly revealed, Gruner said they should pray, inform themselves of the Fatima story, and contact the Vatican (via the Pope's email address: benedictxvi@vatican.va) to ask for them to release the complete message. He was optimistic that the third secret would be revealed in the not too distant future, theorizing it could be as early as a few months from now or as far out as three years.

Elvis Alive?

First hour guest R. Gary Patterson responded to the news about a woman claiming to be the half-sister of Elvis and that he is still alive. He was particularly skeptical about the woman's claim of having DNA from Elvis, which was allegedly left on an envelope sent to her. Patterson said "you'd have to have a tight case that this was definitely Elvis' DNA" and explained that there were a number of instances when such evidence could have been taken while the rock legend was either hospitalized or after his death. Nonetheless, he called the "Elvis is alive" mythos "one of the greatest legends of all time, especially in Rock and Roll."

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