In the first half, Sarah Bamford Seidelmann talked about her journey from a physician living a hectic lifestyle to becoming a shamanic practitioner working with spirit animals and guides. Her transformation started when a taxidermied walrus spoke to her on a symbolic level, and helped impart a sense of freedom that emboldened her to change careers. She realized that on a playful level there is much to learn from the animal kingdom. Seidelmann is particularly focused on wild animals as role models for us, as they exemplify freedom. Animals can come to us in dreams, or through serendipitous events, she said, while a person's "power animal" may be with them throughout their life.
Even creatures that are frightening like sharks can have positive import. For Seidelmann, who was leading a retreat for the first time, focusing on the shark, helped give her a sense of confidence, thinking of the sea animal's fearlessness. She also had a deadly black mamba snake show up in dreams that she interpreted as meaning it was time to "get up and dance" and take action in her life. Other creatures, she offered interpretations for included an owl, an elephant, and a praying mantis.
Sometimes known as the Rod Serling of this generation, Kenneth Johnson is the mind behind iconic science fiction TV shows such as "The Incredible Hulk," "The Bionic Woman," Alien Nation, and the landmark mini-series, V. He shared stories from his various projects and discussed the evolution of sci-fi. As a writer for "The Six Million Dollar Man," his scripts developed the Bionic Woman character, though the producers eventually encouraged him to kill her off. But after they did, there was a huge uproar, and they ended up resurrecting the role for her own series, The Bionic Woman, which became a huge hit, and Johnson helmed the show for a year and a half.
For his next series, The Incredible Hulk, he hoped to infuse a more adult quality to the writing. He initially cast Richard Kiel (the Bond villain "Jaws") in the role as the green-skinned Hulk, but he wasn't quite right, and they ended up going with the bodybuilder and novice actor Lou Ferrigno, who worked well with Bill Bixby in the dual role, Johnson shared. He also talked about his new sci-fi novel, The Darwin Variant, which explores what happens when comet fragments introduce an unknown virus to Earth, and plants and humans start evolving in frightening new ways.
During the last half-hour, George replayed a 2012 interview with writer Jeff Belanger on the haunted White House.