ET Hybrids / Ultraterrestrials

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Hosted byGeorge Knapp

In the first half of the show, alien abduction researcher Dr. David Jacobs joined George Knapp for a discussion on ET hybrids as well as the recent attacks on his work. He made the case that, based on the evolution of what has been learned about abductions, the purpose of the phenomena is ultimately for ET hybrids to be integrated into our society. Jacobs noted that the timetable for this integration had seemed nebulous until around 2003, when he began hearing from abductees that "they were here." So cumulative were these reports that Jacobs concluded that "not only is it happening soon, it's happening now." While he admitted that the agenda behind the hybrid integration remains a mystery, Jacobs was suspicious of it because of the ETs' clandestine nature and that, given their apparent abilities to control human minds, this hybridization has the potential to "make us a second class species."

Regarding the recent criticisms of his work by a former research subject, Jacobs said that "I'm not embroiled in a fight, I'm just sitting back and watching this thing swirl around." He responded to the critique that, as a historian, he is not qualified to use hypnosis on potential abductees by contending that the abduction phenomenon is so unique and specialized that "regular hypnotists cannot do this." To that end, he said that hypnotists and people in the mental health field often "throw up their hands and don't know what to do" with potential abductees and, in turn, refer them to him. As such, he asserted that one person's criticism of his methods should "absolutely not" call into question the legitimacy of hypnosis being used in abduction research. Despite that, he lamented that the "diabolical aspect" of these recent criticisms is that they do indeed threaten to "sully all of hypnosis and all of abductions."

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In the latter half of the program, Ufologist Philip Imbrogno talked about his theory of ultraterrestrials and how it constitutes a radical new quantum approach to understanding the contact phenomenon. In contrast to "extraterrestrial," which he said has become synonymous with simply aliens from another planet, Imbrogno defined "ultraterrestrial" as "anything outside of our physical reality" and, thus, encompasses entities from other dimensions and parallel worlds. He explained that his work aims to "combine string theory and quantum physics into the paranormal." By doing this, Imbrogno said, the enigmatic nature of the paranormal becomes more palatable as it can be viewed in the context of these emerging sciences.

As an example of the ultraterrestrials, Imbrogno shared the story of famed explorer Henry Hudson's encounter with little gnome-like entities in 1609. While exploring the river that would eventually bear his name, Hudson was warned by Native Americans to avoid the "little men" in the nearby mountains. One night during the expedition, he heard music and saw flashes of light coming from a mountain top. Deciding to investigate, Hudson and his men climbed the mountain and discovered a party of gnomes that were dancing around the fire and playing games. Welcomed by the little people, Hudson was told that they were from "somewhere else" and that they come into our world every twenty years. Though this may seem like simple folklore, Imbrogno observed that similar stories of celebratory gnomes in the region seem to resurface every twenty years and there were even reports as recently as 2009.

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