In the first half, Daniel Holdings, an Air Force veteran turned author and podcaster, discussed the intersection of technology, the supernatural, and biblical prophecy. Holdings, who has collaborated extensively with researcher Steve Quayle on documentaries and books, highlighted the growing concern over data tracking and artificial intelligence. "They are tracking everything we do, and people don't understand that with the development of AI, they have the ability now to sort through all of that data," he explained. Further, he referenced emerging technologies such as the development of small brains for medical research, and synthetic humans funded by the World Economic Forum, questioning the ethical implications behind these projects.
Turning to his personal journey, Holdings described himself as a Christian of over 40 years who explores "some really strange stuff," including UFOs, which he claims to have witnessed. He believes some ancient texts and Renaissance artwork are references to UFOs, associating these with a broader spiritual framework grounded in the Bible. He described recent scientific experiments, such as those involving the Casimir effect, as evidence of a quantum realm that could be synonymous with the supernatural. "We are dabbling in areas which people don't understand," he remarked.
Addressing contemporary violence, Holdings suggested a spiritual cause behind mass shootings and societal unrest. He recounted a vision of "portals... in the sky and on the ground" releasing demons that influence human behavior, framing current events as signs of the biblical "end of the age." Citing tech leaders like Peter Thiel, who question whether AI could be linked to the Antichrist system described in biblical prophecy, Holdings connected AI and digital currencies to the biblical "mark of the beast," with their surveillance and control capabilities.
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In the latter half, actor, director, and producer Thomas Jane spoke about ufology and an alien presence. He revealed that in 2011, he experienced an event with what he described as "some sort of non-human intelligence" that profoundly altered his worldview. He is currently finishing a book titled "A Human's Guide to Visiting Aliens," which reflects on his 15-year journey since the experience. On the topic of UFO crashes, including the famous 1947 Roswell incident, he suggested that crashed craft may be piloted by drones or "biological androids," not the aliens themselves.
Discussing the evolution of ufology, Jane noted the increasing involvement of academics and scientists, and how the field is becoming more mainstream and rigorous. He cited the work of researcher Jacques Vallée, who proposed that UFO phenomena might represent an "alien control system" — a cybernetic feedback mechanism influencing human consciousness and beliefs rather than a more direct extraterrestrial interaction. Jane added that he is open to the idea that these entities may originate from other dimensions rather than distant planets.
He also touched on advanced technologies related to anti-gravity and zero-point energy, suggesting they represent a possible "gateway" to other worlds inhabited by advanced intelligences. He posited that these technologies are part of an evolutionary ladder that intelligent species eventually unlock, potentially allowing travel between dimensions or times. Jane speculated that some visitors may be future humans or civilizations returning to our time, emphasizing the role of "consciousness" as a form of inner travel.
During the last half-hour, George featured an excerpt from a past interview with Paul McGuire about prophecy.
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