In the first half, on the 24th anniversary of 9/11, architect Richard Gage, founder of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, discussed his ongoing efforts to challenge the official narrative of the September 11 attacks. He explained that his doubts began five years after the event, triggered by research from David Ray Griffin and testimonies from first responders who reported explosions prior to the Twin Towers' collapse. While Gage acknowledges terrorists and the impact of planes on the towers, he contends that the identities and the full story differ from the official version. He focused heavily on the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7, a 47-story skyscraper that fell at free-fall speed into its own footprint-- an event he describes as "the third worst structural failure in modern history" and "like a perfect, controlled demolition."
Gage highlighted eyewitness reports of explosions and the uniform, symmetrical descent of Building 7, and how all 82 core columns failed simultaneously, yet damage from debris was not a significant factor in its collapse. He criticized the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) for attributing the collapse solely to office fires, which he argues cannot bring down a fire-protected steel structure. He cited eyewitness accounts and physical evidence indicating explosions inside Building 7, including reports from firefighters and emergency personnel who observed blasts and structural damage inconsistent with fire alone.
Further, he described the presence of molten steel and iron microspheres found in the debris as evidence of thermite, a military-grade incendiary capable of cutting steel at extremely high temperatures-- far exceeding those produced by office fires. "If we don't get at the truth, we're allowing the perpetrators who were directly responsible…to be at large and capable of doing another false flag operation," he remarked. He also explained the complexity of controlled demolitions, noting that months of preparation and partial building evacuation would be necessary for such an operation-- conditions he claims were met.
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In the latter half, historian and psychic investigator Adrian Lee spoke about his unique approach to ghostly encounters. He pointed out the historian's advantage in paranormal work: "You can actually have a conversation with a ghost and ask them what it was like back in the day," offering what he calls "primary source material" from the dead. Lee detailed a "neat little triangle" of evidence combining psychic impressions, electronic voice phenomena (EVPs), and historical records to validate ghostly encounters. He reflected on what spirits miss most after death: "They miss the sun on their face, the rain on their skin... a kiss and a cuddle as well, and any kind of intimacy." And while we might grieve for a single departed individual, spirits miss everyone when they die, which can be painful for them, he noted.
Lee defined ghosts primarily as "energy" that dissipates over time, proposing that "we actually die twice"-- physically and then when our energy fades. He argued that ghosts require self-awareness to manifest, explaining why animals like dogs can appear as spirits but not fish or birds. Drawing on his book "Ghosts and UFOs," he explained that many paranormal events share common traits, particularly the concept that entities think themselves into existence or a location.
He recounted two personal UFO encounters in Minnesota, with one involving multiple erratic lights in a cemetery where his paranormal equipment simultaneously registered intense electromagnetic activity, and another in which a "giant blue ball" morphed into a cigar shape near wind turbines. Shifting to historical hauntings, Lee explored the ghosts of the 1862 US-Dakota War, where broken treaties and starvation led to conflict between Native Americans and settlers. Reflecting on battlefield hauntings, he remarked that "energy soaks into the surroundings," and that spirits often seek recognition and remembrance.
News segment guests: Douglas Mulhall, Kevin Randle