In the first half, filmmaker and UFO researcher L.A. Marzulli spoke about the state of ufology today, whether we are close to disclosure, and the meaning of ET life, their visits, and their abductions. Inspired by revelations in 2017, including Commander David Fravor’s encounter with a "Tic Tac"-shaped UFO, Marzulli described the "rungs of disclosure" as an 18-step ladder toward full disclosure, which is depicted on his interactive website and offers video updates. He also shared reactions to the upcoming Spielberg film "Disclosure Day," highlighting a striking trailer moment in which a stag’s eyes transform into those of a "grey" alien, and a deliberate nod to the Roswell cover-up. He shared his firsthand investigation of the Roswell debris field, including the retrieval of unidentified metal fragments that resisted analysis, reinforcing his assertion that "it was not a weather balloon."
Marzulli argued that what many consider alien encounters are actually interdimensional entities connected to biblical prophecies and the "fallen watchers" mentioned in ancient texts like the Book of Enoch. He warned of a "great deception" in which these beings will claim to be "friendly space brothers" who created humanity and its religions, aiming to mislead millions. Speaking of his involvement in investigating alleged alien implants with the late Dr. Roger Leir, he detailed the removal of a rice-sized device from a five-year-old abductee, with the foreign object said to contain double-walled carbon nanotubes, possibly of non-human origin.
He also described eerie phenomena such as an avocado tree spontaneously combusting near an abduction site and unexplained cattle mutilations on a Texas ranch, highlighting the persistent mystery and danger surrounding these events. Marzulli also touched on his new novel, "The Waiting Room," which explores a near-death encounter and draws from his own experience as well as that of Rev. Howard Storm, who had a hellish NDE (view book trailer).
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In the latter half, C2C's investigative reporter Cheryll Jones presented her interview with former president of the Arizona Archaeological Society Agave House, Richard Gonsalves, who has extensively studied and decoded mysterious petroglyphs in the Southwest, revealing connections between Native American and ancient Chinese symbols (view related images). He described petroglyphs as “pictures that are scribed into the rock face,” depicting animals and symbols whose meanings have largely eluded understanding, though some have references to Native American legends such as the “ant people." He also highlighted petroglyphs depicting a “beanstalk” exit from an underground world, linking Hopi and Zuni legends to imagery reminiscent of “Jack and the Beanstalk.”
He co-authored research with scientist John Ruskamp Jr., which found that some of the petroglyphs bear a striking resemblance to 3,000-year-old Chinese symbols or pictograms. This revelation points to an ancient Chinese presence in the Americas, including petroglyphs naming “a specific river where the emperor lived in China,” which a Chinese university professor verified as significant, Gonsalves reported. Discussing the challenges of dating petroglyphs, he told Cheryll that, while the rock itself cannot be dated, the script style can be linked to specific Chinese dynasties. Gonsalves described the discovery of a Chinese symbol for "boat" etched above wavy lines interpreted as an ocean, suggesting early Chinese explorers crossed the Pacific to the American Southwest. He believes that the Chinese explorers may have added their pictograms some time after the Indians originally created the petroglyphs.
One of the most intriguing findings involves the “Serenade on an Ancient Prairie” petroglyph, which Gonsalves interprets as a dual-language "Rosetta Stone" combining Chinese symbols for music with Native American depictions of a coyote’s howl. Additionally, he uncovered a petroglyph resembling a UFO or meteor accompanied by Chinese characters for “thunder” and “bell,” suggesting a funerary bell which would have been unknown to Native Americans but consistent with Chinese symbolism.
During the last half-hour, George featured a replay of his 7/31/09 interview with Benjamin Creme on the arrival of the spiritual leader known as Maitreya.
News segment guests: John Truman Wolfe, Jeff Nelken