Privacy & Tech/ Peru & UFOs

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Date Host George Noory
Guests Alejandro Rojas, John McAfee

In the first half, software entrepreneur and founder of McAfee Inc., the controversial John McAfee, discussed his life and career as well as why he is critical of NSA surveillance and what he plans to do about it. McAfee recalled how, in 1986, the emergence of the first computer virus was a stunning development that had been unexpected by those in the industry. Upon hearing the news, McAfee said, he simultaneously realized both how the programmers had created the virus as well as how to stop it. After posting his anti-virus program on an Internet message board, "it just went around the world and became, instantly, a required program." This initial success led to the creation of his security software company which has become a juggernaut in the computer industry.

McAfee was highly critical of the NSA spying program, which was revealed this past Summer, calling the practice "fundamentally wrong" and lamenting that "we have to have privacy to be human and we're losing that rapidly." Additionally, he warned that this surveillance is likely an even larger problem than the public knows because if the NSA is spying on people, then "so is the FBI, the CIA, the Secret Service, the Army Intelligence, they're all doing it." In response to the NSA spying, McAfee revealed that he has created a new company known as 'Future Tense,' which will feature a "completely secure network" that is fluid and ever-changing and, thus, cannot be breached. However, he pointed out that the music industry has already decried his concept as "dangerous" and "covert agencies" are also not happy with his plans. Despite these challenges, McAfee confidently declared that he will press forward with the project.


In the latter half, ufologist Alejandro Rojas reported on the recent move by the Peruvian Air Force (FAP) to re-activate their dormant UFO investigation department and also shared an update on global UFO activity and research. He explained that the official Peruvian UFO research group, known as the Office of Anomalous Aerial Phenomena Research (OIFAA), was created in 2001 but fell dormant in 2005. However, in response to an increase in UFO reports over the past year, the government decided to re-open the department. Although this new incarnation of the group will be staffed by civilians, Rojas noted that the head of the group is a retired Air Force colonel who is "really into this topic" and was actually a witness to a famous Peruvian UFO sighting.

Regarding the current state of UFO activity and research around the globe, Rojas conceded that "as far as investigators go, it does seem that there are less people" entering ufology. He expressed regret that many of the legendary UFO researchers are passing away and that they are not being replaced by newcomers to the field. One positive aspect of this ever-diminishing pool of UFO researchers, Rojas said, is that the community has become even more "tight knit" and, therefore, "we get to know each other really well and its almost like family." Over the course of his appearance, Rojas also discussed UFO cases like the 1973 Pascagoula abduction event and the Rendlesham Forest Incident as well as crop circles and disclosure.

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