In the first half, author and researcher Sarah Janes discussed the history, culture, and transformative potential of dreaming, with a focus on lucid dreaming. She characterized lucid dreaming as a "spectrum" in which a person can have varying degrees of awareness that they are in a dream or of being able to control the experience. For inducing lucid dreams, she recommended the wake-back-to-bed technique, as well as fasting, and supplements that enhance memory. She reported that lucid dreaming has been practiced since ancient times, often for divination and healing, and is linked to spiritual concepts. The ancients spoke of lucid dreams as an experience of ecstasy and bliss, and often involving a meeting with a deceased loved one or a god or a goddess, she added.
She touched on historical dream artifacts, such as Egyptian headrests used as "spirit telephones" to communicate with the deceased in dreams, as well as ancient healing practices at Greek Asclepion temples, where dreams were integral to holistic healing, sometimes involving divine dream interventions. Janes leads retreats in Greece and Turkey, exploring ancient dream sites and practices.
She also explored precognitive dreams, describing them as "oracular" and typically containing seeds or information rather than direct future events. Highlighting the role of dreams in developing our sense of self, she said our dream landscape is a kind of psychic memory palace "where we're creating and living and spending time in our personality, constructing ideas, building our worldview." And in the age of misinformation we live in, dreams might be one of our most trustworthy sources, she mused. Calling dreaming the "eternal odyssey of the soul," she suggested the state may be similar to what we experience upon death.
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In the latter half, palmist Vernon Mahabal, who blends Eastern and Western astrology with palmistry, shared insights into his predictive methods and current global tensions. He explained that his predictions are based on analyzing recurring patterns in clients' hands, sometimes remotely via photos. "If you look at enough people in a particular area, you're going to be able to see the trends," he noted. Addressing the state of the world, he described the present as a difficult time astrologically, marked by planetary positions that contribute to widespread tension and stress. He expressed particular concern about geopolitical flashpoints, especially the India-Pakistan region. However, he forecast improvement in about two and a half years, stating, "The future is bright... we're going to see a much more peaceful world."
Mahabal also discussed generational shifts, noting that younger people aged 16 to 28 possess strong morals and potential to "change the world in a very good way" once societal conditions improve. Regarding economic trends, he predicted continued "ups and downs" in 2026 but highlighted growth opportunities in the fitness and wellness sectors. Suggesting that the soul has continuity across multiple lifetimes, he stated, "The soul is eternal... you can see as many as seven or eight lifetimes" in a person's hand, explaining that talents often carry over from past existences.
Underscoring the connection between astrology and palmistry, he called them "brother or sister" sciences, though he finds palmistry more intuitive because "it's the soul that's actually radiating its forces into the hand by way of the arms," enabling a powerful spiritual reading. He clarified common misconceptions, such as the meaning of the lifeline, which he said "has nothing to do with health or death," but relates to sexuality and relationships. In the last hour, Mahabal provided readings to callers.
News segment guests: Jeff Nelken, Kevin Randle