Guest host Connie Willis (info) was joined by astrologer Mark Lerner for a conversation about Steven Spielberg's film Disclosure Day, as well as related astrological commentary. Lerner argued that the new film reinforces themes he has long studied through astrology and UFO history. He emphasized the significance of 1947, citing both Kenneth Arnold's famous June 24 sighting near Mount Rainier—which popularized the term "flying saucer"—and the subsequent Roswell incident. Lerner suggested that these events created an astrological birth chart for the modern UFO phenomenon, providing a framework for astrologers to analyze the history and evolution of disclosure.
Lerner interpreted Spielberg's work through an astrological lens, noting that the famous director's Sagittarius traits align with themes of exploration, truth-seeking, and humanity's relationship with the cosmos. He contended that Disclosure Day differs from Spielberg's earlier, more fantastical UFO films by presenting the subject in a more realistic and contemporary way. According to Lerner, the film reflects Spielberg's belief that it is unfair for a small group of insiders to possess knowledge about UFOs while the broader public remains uninformed about extraterrestrial phenomena.
Lerner shared his view that disclosure has been unfolding gradually over the past decades through government acknowledgments, media reports, congressional hearings, and popular culture. He pointed to developments ranging from Roswell and the creation of the postwar U.S. national security apparatus to modern Navy UFO footage and public investigations. He pointed out that astrology can be used to track the unfolding of these events over time through charts, transits, and progressions, leading him to believe that society is entering a period of heightened awareness and renewed focus on the UFO question.
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Open Lines followed in the latter half of the program. Michelle from Encino, California, called to express her admiration for Mark Lerner ("The Great Bear"), explaining that she became interested in astrology as a child after listening to his radio appearances and reading his newsletters. She shared a story told to her by the late Ronnie James Dio, who reportedly described a disturbing experience involving an Ouija board and a woman who later revealed herself to have died in childbirth and allegedly urged him to harm her son. According to Michelle, the experience frightened Dio so much that he swore off Ouija boards entirely.
Tom in Tucson, Arizona, praised Disclosure Day, calling it Steven Spielberg's best film and urging Coast to Coast listeners to see it. He said the movie deeply resonated with him because of his own lifelong experiences, including childhood encounters he believes were alien abductions, during which he felt paralyzed and unable to call for help. He recounted a later incident in which he went missing for several hours while driving near Tucson, after which he found himself in a different location, disheveled and with no memory of what had happened. Tom said the film's scenes triggered memories of these experiences, leaving him emotionally shaken after the movie ended.
Mark from California argued that recent government UAP disclosures reveal only superficial information and fail to show the actual nature of the phenomena. He claimed to possess rare photos and video evidence of what he believes are different types of extraterrestrial craft and beings, which he compared to different makes and models of cars. He also described discovering symbols he believes connect UFOs to ancient artifacts and religious history, including references to Jesus. Overall, Mark expressed distrust of government transparency, suggesting that intelligence agencies suppress or deny authentic evidence and that meaningful disclosure has already come from independent researchers and witnesses rather than official sources.