Skinwalker Ranch & Area 51

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Date Host Art Bell
Guests George Knapp, Colm Kelleher

Investigative journalist George Knapp and researcher Colm Kelleher discussed their book Hunt for the Skinwalker, which chronicles bizarre paranormal events that were scientifically studied at a ranch in Utah. During the period of 1996-7 strange incidents were occurring frequently and included the sightings of anomalous dark shapes, creatures, lights and UFOs, as well as unexplained animal mutilations, recounted Kelleher (who appeared in just the first hour of the interview).

Kelleher told of one event that took place in August of 1997, in which two workers from NIDS (National Institute for Discovery Science) witnessed a dull yellow light on the ranch that was close to the ground and growing bigger and bigger. One of the workers viewed the light through night vision/infrared equipment and saw what could not be seen with the naked eye. A tunnel of light was opening up, and a large muscular humanoid entity with no facial features crawled out of it, and then vanished. The two workers investigated the area and found no trace of the being, though there was a strong smell of sulfur.

Knapp suggested that the events at the ranch (which continue to this day) may have a "dimensional" aspect to them, as though the area is a "portal" of some sort. In fact, he reported that the previous ranch owner, Tom Gorman, described seeing a sun-like sphere from which objects came and went, and that he could see another sky behind the sphere. Knapp also shared details of his many years investigating ufology as a television journalist, including the Bob Lazar/Area 51 story, which he first brought to public attention 18 years ago. Lazar, he believes, is telling the truth as he knows it.

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