Screenwriter, film producer, and co-author of Fastwalker with Jacques Vallee, Tracy Torme discussed his research into abductions and UFOs. Citing a lifelong interest in UFOs, Torme said his first suspicion that the phenomena was real came from "the tortured explanations of the skeptics." His goal of someday making a UFO film lead him to become friends with research giants like Budd Hopkins, J. Allen Hynek, and Dr. John Mack.

In the latter half of the interview's first hour, Travis Walton joined the program to talk about his abduction experience, which Torme developed into the screenplay for the film Fire in the Sky. Walton attributed his abduction to being "in the wrong place at the wrong time." In response to that, Torme noted that Walton may be "the luckiest abductee ever," since his research suggests that abductions are normally recurring events throughout the abductee's life.

Torme talked of balancing his work in television with his esoteric interest, including a story about being called in the middle of writing for Saturday Night Live by abduction researcher Budd Hopkins. Hopkins insisted Torme come over and sit in on a session he was having with an abductee. Torme also recounted the time he was working for Star Trek: The Next Generation and Gene Roddenberry tried to dissuade him from writing Fire in the Sky because Roddenberry didn't believe in UFOs.

Income Tax Legality

During the first hour, attorney Tom Cryer discussed his legal battle over federal income tax. Despite being acquitted on two counts of tax evasion, Cryer considers himself "an enemy of the state in their eyes" because he continues to educate people about why the Federal income tax is unconstitutional.