Mystical & Occult Explorations/ Creationism & Science

Mystical & Occult Explorations/ Creationism & Science


HostGeorge Noory

GuestsMarla Martenson, Troy Lawrence

In the first half, certified life/dating coach, author, and motivational speaker, Marla Martenson joined George Noory in the studio for a discussion about her spiritual and occult odyssey, in which she explored various practices, and experiences. She and her friend Julie traveled around Los Angeles, taking various classes on such topics as pendulums, candle magic, and breath work, as well visiting with channelers and psychics. In the process, Martenson became a crystal healer, and Reiki master, as well as an experienced user of the Ouija board. She encountered entities identified as "Secret Spirit" and "Angel."

She also worked with Ouija expert, Karen Dahlman, and other board users. Subsequently, she started having health problems, and one night she felt an energy come through the top of her head, and felt paralyzed for a time. She ended up going to a healer who conducted a clearing on her, and declared that she had 10 lower vibrational entities or "hitchhikers" that had attached themselves to her. People pick up low energy forms, so it's important to know how to protect and clear oneself, Martenson noted. There are also ways to cleanse or ritually clear Ouija boards to make them safer to use, she added.


Retired doctor of chiropractic medicine, Troy Lawrence, who has been unraveling mysteries involving the origins of all things, appeared in the latter half. Regarding creation, he has focused on finding the "natural processes of science that explain God's supernatural decrees." What we learn through cosmology is that celestial bodies spin to gather matter, he said, relating this to the creation description in Genesis. "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the matter. And the matter was without its final form, and water was everywhere...And that would be what most people are calling the Big Bang," he said.

The Large Hadron Collider offers a plausible hypothesis as to how matter came about --that there was once a violent expansion to the universe, which corresponds with Isaiah's writings in the Bible that God stretched out the universe, Lawrence continued. He also offered a critique of Darwinism, suggested that dinosaurs existed in far more recent history than is commonly thought, and offered an explanation as to how humans could live to be 900+ years as Methuselah is described in the Bible.

News segment guests: John M. Curtis, Dr. Gary Ridenour, Heather Wade



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