Guest host Ryan Wrecker welcomed writer David W. Brown for a discussion on space exploration. Brown emphasized the intrigue surrounding interstellar objects such as the Atlas comet and the earlier discovery of 'Oumuamua, the first confirmed interstellar object observed in our solar system. He explained that these objects travel at extreme speeds due to the gravitational forces they must overcome when leaving their home systems and entering ours. They are scientifically valuable because they form around other stars under different conditions, potentially carrying unique materials or even alien organic matter. While the idea of these objects being alien probes is speculative, Brown noted that it is not entirely implausible.
Brown revealed how he researches these discoveries by contacting the people who first identified them and then expanding to other experts, often uncovering surprising details. He acknowledged that intercepting interstellar objects is technically possible, given past successes in landing on comets and asteroids. Still, the challenge lies in their unpredictable trajectories and the difficulty of launching missions on short notice. Concepts such as keeping spacecraft in Earth's orbit for rapid deployment have been proposed, though they would be expensive. Regarding sending messages or artifacts into space, he supported the idea, arguing that Earth already emits detectable signals and that proactive communication could be advantageous.
Brown spoke about broader space exploration issues, including the plan to build nuclear reactors on the Moon to power long-term missions, noting that solar power is limited by the Moon's two-week-long nights. Nuclear reactors could provide heat for equipment and vehicles in extremely cold conditions. He expressed skepticism that the United States currently leads in lunar exploration, pointing instead to China's disciplined and well-funded program. He suggested America might have been better off focusing on Mars, where it once had a clear advantage, though China has quickly narrowed the gap. Brown highlighted SpaceX's single-minded drive toward Mars and how Elon Musk's various companies, from tunneling to solar power, make strategic sense for building a self-sufficient Martian colony.
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In the second half of the program, Margie Kay described her unique form of remote viewing, which she first discovered in the early 1990s while helping locate a kidnapped child. She explained that her process involves following a visualized cord from her body to a target location, allowing her to be present in real time, experience physical sensations, and gather specific details such as street names, license plates, and appearances of people involved. Over the years, she developed the ability to travel back in time during sessions, witnessing events as they occurred. She attributes a significant enhancement of her abilities to an encounter in 1985 with an extraterrestrial named Val Thor, who granted her a tenfold increase in her psychic skills. According to Kay, Val Thor has guided her since childhood, saved her life on multiple occasions, and assigned her a mission to help raise planetary consciousness through teaching, writing, and media projects.
Kay reported on her work investigating haunted locations, UFO phenomena, and extraterrestrial contact. In paranormal research, she emphasized the importance of historical records, proper equipment, and diverse team roles, while criticizing TV ghost hunting shows for antagonizing spirits. She suggested certain locations have energetic fields or portals, sometimes linked to underground water, that allow entities to pass between dimensions. As MUFON's Central Regional Director, Kay talked about UFO contact as a multidimensional phenomenon tied to consciousness, often facilitated through meditation. She said she avoids remote viewing classified or military sites, claiming such places can detect and track remote viewers through technology and psychic monitoring.
According to Kay, her remote viewing abilities are not limited to Earth; she claimed to have also visited the Moon, Mars, and other planets tied to people's extraterrestrial star families. On Mars, she has observed abandoned and active structures, tunnels, domes with plants, water sources, and even green vegetation growing openly in certain regions. Kay noted she has used her skills to investigate famous and modern mysteries, including the Amelia Earhart disappearance, where she currently perceives Earhart's remains on a remote, uninhabited Pacific island. Kay revealed she considers her remote viewing a form of time travel achieved by stepping into a light body, unconstrained by time or space, and some extraterrestrials may use similar techniques for instantaneous travel across vast distances.