The Mattering Principle / Supernatural Encounters

Hosted byGeorge Noory

The Mattering Principle / Supernatural Encounters

About the show

In the first half, writer and philosophy professor Rebecca Goldstein discussed the profound human drive to "matter" — to feel that one's life is significant and deserving of attention. "We all want to matter in the way that most matters to us," she noted, adding that this longing is universal. We ask, who matters? But most deeply, most poignantly, we ask whether we ourselves matter. This question, she suggested, is central to the human experience: "Am I living a life that matters...or am I wasting my time here?" She framed the issue as a fundamental struggle against entropy —the natural tendency toward disorder.

Goldstein emphasized the interplay between external validation and internal conviction and how the longing for significance is multifaceted, influenced by personal relationships and societal perceptions. She also touched on the biological imperative for self-attention and the psychological impact of feeling undeserving, linking it to depression and the importance of addressing this need.

Dissecting the complexities of mattering, she explained that people often seek validation through various means —family, fame, or spirituality— and that this quest can manifest in both constructive and destructive ways. She cited tragic examples, such as the Parkland school shooter's chilling plea: "You will all know my name..." illustrating how a desperate need to matter can lead to violence. She argued that the human pursuit of meaning is unique, requiring us to wrestle with values and morality. "We're in this exercise of trying to justify ourselves... to live satisfactory lives, we have to think about values," she remarked, underscoring the delicate balance between self-worth and the impact of our actions on others.

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In the latter half, Anna Maria Manalo, an author of supernatural thrillers, shared her personal and investigative experiences with paranormal phenomena. Drawing from childhood encounters in the Philippines, she recounted how her father witnessed a creature resembling the Mothman—"wings of a bat, the eyes of a cow, and the suggestion of horns"—which haunted the family for years. She explained the cultural backdrop of the Philippines, where folklore and Catholicism intermingle, creating a rich tapestry of beliefs about spirits, elementals, and the battle between good and evil.

Manalo's transition from personal experience to professional investigation began in 2008 when she trained with MUFON in Pennsylvania and interviewed numerous witnesses of unexplained phenomena. One compelling case involved a jogger who encountered a hovering vehicle and a tall, silent creature resembling a praying mantis. The woman experienced a lost time episode and later discovered "scoop marks" on her legs. Another story involved a couple who encountered a mysteriously driverless van crossing a bridge, moving slowly with all doors open. The witness described an eerie silence along the river, saying, "There were no sounds. Everything was drowned out," prompting them to flee the area.

The guest also recounted a World War II survival tale from an elderly woman who escaped the Gestapo through the Bavarian woods. The woman witnessed ghostly reenactments of wartime tragedies, describing an interaction with "disembodied people, even animals," that have passed away because of the war. Manalo also spoke about haunted artifacts featured in her book "Haunted Heirlooms," including a cursed urn shipped from Czechoslovakia that caused disturbances so severe it had to be buried.

News segment guests: Lauren Weinstein, Seth Shostak

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