Ian Punnett was joined, for the full four hours, by author Gregg Braden and C2C science advisor Richard C. Hoagland for a discussion of the 2012 phenomenon and what it means both physically for Earth and sociologically for its denizens. "My sense is that we are, in fact, living the end of a rare and mysterious cycle of time," Braden mused. Regarding mainstream scientists who dismiss the idea of a 2012 event, Hoagland explained that this is because they refuse to examine the emerging science of torsion physics, which he believes plays a major role in the cycle coming to an end.
Braden noted that data from both archaeological and polar ice cap studies suggests that the current physical condition of Earth is very similar to previous time periods going through the cycle. Additionally, he explained that his research on polar shifts indicates that such an event requires the magnetic field of earth passing through a certain low threshold. Currently, Braden said, Earth's magnetic field is "so far above the measurement" that the possibility of crossing the threshold in the next three years "looks pretty slim." On the concern that many have with 2012-related disasters, Braden said, "physical changes, we've always survived. What we haven't survived is the way that we treat one another as we go through that change."
To that end, Hoagland noted an ongoing increase in cultural polarization, a trend that can be seen most clearly in contemporary politics. Looking at the past, he recalled how this polarity may be a symptom of the impending 2012 event as "these other civilizations killed themselves" while going through the cycle. "It's more the psychological, consciousness aspect of this physics that we may have to fear, at the moment, than the physical aspect," Hoagland suggested. As such, he expressed concern that 2012 could be used by nefarious forces to steer humankind towards a darker future, should the event usher in a consciousness shift.
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