Global Surveillance / Roswell & Wright-Patterson Secrets

Hosted byGeorge Noory

Global Surveillance / Roswell & Wright-Patterson Secrets

About the show

Writer and researcher focused on technology, Arthur Holland Michel is the co-director of the Center for the Study of the Drone at Bard College. In the first half, he discussed how the Pentagon has developed a godlike surveillance system for monitoring America's enemies overseas, and how it's now being used to watch us in our own backyards. This system called Gorgon Stare, allows operators to track thousands of moving targets at once, across whole city-sized areas. Carried by planes, the formidable aerial surveillance system uses a technology called wide-area motion imaging that enables it to view large swaths, he explained, and recordings can be rewound to moments in the past. Because it covers such a large area, the resolution isn't the highest, but it can zoom in on a location, where operators can often access other cameras for higher-definition images.

While Gorgon Stare's capabilities can be invaluable on the battlefield or fighting crime and terrorism at home, Michel expressed concern over the unintended consequences or abuse of the powerful technology. People can be tracked as they come and go, and there's considerable potential for the invasion of citizens' privacy. In 2016, such a system was deployed over the city of Baltimore without the public being told, and Michel was able to observe from the secret control room. An analyst showed him how he was tracking, over a period of hours, a number of individuals who'd been involved in a lethal shooting. The technology is advancing with lighter cameras, and will eventually be featured in swarms of drones, as well as stationary cameras on the ground, Michel reported. Currently, some drones have a "follow me" feature that allows operators to click on a subject on the screen, and the drone will then autonomously follow them, as it evades obstacles. During the call-in portion, Bill M. phoned in to discuss his case of shooting down a drone that was flying over his property, which was widely covered in the media.


A former co-director of the J. Allen Hynek Center for UFO Studies in Chicago, Don Schmidt, is also a co-founder of the International UFO Museum and Research Center in Roswell. In the latter half, he and Tom Carey, a US Air Force veteran who has spent more than 20 years investigating the Roswell incident, revealed details of what crashed in Roswell and still remains classified, and how evidence was initially stored at Wright-Patterson base. Before they recanted the story, the military sent out a press release in early July 1947 announcing that the "Army Air Forces at Roswell came into possession of a flying saucer courtesy of a rancher," Carey recounted. He added that around this time mortician Glenn Dennis got a curious phone call from the Air Base asking if he had child-sized caskets at his funeral home.

Schmidt and Carey concurred that the crashed UFO remnants and alien bodies were originally transferred from Roswell to Wright-Patterson, but because the AFB was located near a populated area in Ohio, the craft materials were eventually sent to the more secretive Area 51 in the Nevada desert. The alleged alien cadavers (said to have large heads, ash-gray skin, and diminutive noses, according to a Colonel's report in the 1950s) were kept at Dugway Proving Grounds in Utah. Schmidt also shared the testimony of General Arthur Exon, who was stationed at Wright-Patterson at the time the Roswell wreckage arrived. Exon confided that after their lab testing, it was their unanimous conclusion that the unusual materials were manufactured in outer space rather than on Earth.

News segment guests: Jerome Corsi, Steve Kates

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