In the first half, Professor Douglas Axe argued that biological complexity is evidence of the existence of intelligent design. His work aims to bridge scientific inquiry with a broader audience, emphasizing that the principles of intelligent design can be applied to living systems. Speaking of the SETI program that searches for intelligent life via extraterrestrial signals, he said that if you look at life as we see it here on Earth, "you can infer in the same way that you might infer from extraterrestrial signals, that life was, in fact, created by an intelligent designer."
His background in engineering and biochemistry led him to marvel at the complexity of life at a molecular level, reinforcing his belief in a creator. When asked about the definition of God, Axe, a Christian, stated, "He is that from which everything else comes. So nothing else exists apart from what he has created. And he has, for his own reasons, created us as smaller creators." He also tackled the notion of the universe's origin, asserting that every worldview must acknowledge a "first cause," which he identifies as God.
Axe suggested that a desire for autonomy often drives disbelief or atheism, but he contends this perspective ultimately fails to address life's deeper questions. "A human being, being both a physical body and an immaterial mind (soul, spirit), must have been created by a being that works in both of those realms," he concluded. The conversation also touched on the future of biology and technology, as well as his reflections on the COVID-19 pandemic and its societal impacts.
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In the latter half, spiritual medium Sunny Dawn Johnston discussed her communications with the unseen realms, including our departed loved ones, angels, and spirit guides. She recounted a profound experience at an Arizona State Fair during her early days of giving readings as a medium. She connected with a child spirit named Christopher while giving a reading for a man. The spirit conveyed that the man was his father, and wanted him to know that his death was not his fault. Johnston said this revelation melted away the father's guilt and grief. This moment shifted her perspective on mediumship, leading her to embrace her gifts fully.
Angels, she said, are functioning at an "extreme high frequency," and the spirit realm is really just a vibrational world. Angels are always speaking to us in a variety of different forms, which sometimes include repeated number patterns like 444, she added. Addressing the topic of negative energies, she reframed the concept of "demons" as low-frequency energies, which she avoids by maintaining a grounding practice, staying in the present, and reaching out to archangels like Michael. Johnston also shared insights from her work as a psychic detective, highlighting the emotional toll and fulfillment of helping families find closure for missing loved ones. During the last hour, she gave readings for callers.
New segment guests: John M. Curtis, Catherine Austin Fitts