Witchcraft & Magick / Ghost to Ghost 2025

Hosted byGeorge Noory

Witchcraft & Magick / Ghost to Ghost 2025

About the show

George Noory welcomed real-life witches Melissa St. Hilaire and Patti Negri for a discussion of witchcraft, positive spiritual practices, and dealing with haunted dolls. Melissa St. Hilaire described how her journey into witchcraft began in childhood, when her mother's visits to psychics in Provincetown, Massachusetts, led her to her first tarot deck at age twelve. That gift opened her mind to unseen forces and marked the start of a lifelong spiritual path. She explained that tarot naturally evolved into witchcraft—what began as simple candle rituals and love spells for friends eventually deepened into a disciplined practice rooted in intention, energy, and protection. She emphasized that witchcraft is not dark or dangerous but a positive, empowering way to connect with the world beyond the physical.

She described herself as an "American Witch," blending traditional magical elements with modern sensibilities. She said she performs daily rituals, including the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram, to clear negative energy and maintain spiritual safety in her work as a psychic medium. Her witchcraft extends into her paranormal research, such as the Halloween-night investigation she conducted at the haunted Glen Tavern Inn in Santa Paula, California. There, she and other investigators explored rooms said to harbor spirits connected to a tragic flood that once devastated the area.

Patti Negri, known as "The Good Witch," described witchcraft as a natural part of her identity—something she was instinctively drawn to rather than taught. Though raised without religion, she found herself practicing magic from a young age, using herbs, intuition, and communication with nature long before she had formal knowledge of witchcraft. For Negri, modern witchcraft offers both a spiritual and practical framework for living in harmony with the planet and one’s own energy. She emphasized that witchcraft is now the fastest-growing religion in America, attributing its rise to people seeking empowerment and reconnection in uncertain times.

Negri discussed the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain, which she described as the witches' New Year, when the veil between worlds is thinnest and communication with ancestors is easiest. In addition, she explored the world of haunted and magical dolls—a lifelong passion that inspired her book Doll Craft. According to Negri, spirits may attach to dolls because the humanlike features offer a familiar vessel, and while most are benign, low-vibration attachments can drain energy or cause illness. She outlined ways to identify and care for such dolls, from trusting intuition to observing how animals react, and explained how respectful banishing rituals can free unwanted spirits.

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Ghost to Ghost 2025, featuring live listener ghost stories, followed in the latter half of the program. Notorious caller JC Webster phoned from an "undisclosed location" to deliver his trademark fiery Halloween rant, declaring October 31 the devil's birthday. He condemned trick-or-treating as robbery, claiming he would call the police and spray children with a hose when they came to his door. JC revealed he's haunted by the ghost of Art Bell, who taunts him with familiar phrases from their past broadcasts, and he demanded an exorcism to drive the spirit away.

Greg from California shared a heartwarming story about his late horticulture teacher, Nam, who continued to guide him from beyond the grave. After Nam’s death, Greg—an avid lifelong gardener—began seeing him in dreams whenever he faced problems in his greenhouse or orchard. In each dream, Nam accurately diagnosed the issue, including one remarkable instance when he revealed that a catnip plant infected with parasites had caused a severe insect infestation. Greg's son later confirmed the dream's details exactly. He reflected that such spirit visitations often occur during sleep, when the veil between the living and the dead is thinnest, and that not all ghostly encounters are frightening—some, like Nam's, are gifts of wisdom and comfort.

Cole in Hermosa Beach shared a chilling family story passed down from his parents, who witnessed the mysterious "spook light" near Quapaw, Oklahoma, in 1947. During a late-night drive, they followed local legend by turning off their car and waiting quietly on the deserted Devil's Promenade. Within minutes, a glowing golden orb appeared in the distance, drifting and bouncing closer until it hovered like a basketball over their car's radiator—then vanished the instant his father started the engine. Locals claimed the light was the ghost of a Native American man who, after being decapitated in a mine shaft while searching for his runaway wife, eternally roams the road with his lantern, still searching for his lost head.

News segment guests: Heidi Hollis / Kevin Randle

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