Horse in a Human Form

Hosted byIan Punnett

Horse in a Human Form

About the show

Therians are people who identify as an animal that exists or has existed on earth. Coast to Coast AM was introduced to such a person in 2009 when Jason "The Horse" joined Ian Punnett (Twitter) to discuss his experiences as a black Shire horse living inside the body of a human. Jason returned for an update on his life and to talk about how after his interviews on Coast other people who identify as animals reached out to him.

Jason recalled being around two years old when he saw a billboard of the English countryside which triggered a memory of him trotting down a road while pulling a two-wheel cart. According to Jason, it was a first-person point of view in which he saw his blinders, the end of his nose, the bridle, and he could feel the impact of his hooves against the ground. "I kept staring at that billboard because it kept that memory going," he said. Jason recounted the time he saw an overcast evening sky and it instantly triggered a memory of him trotting through a dark valley heading to a village with a rider on his back. He remembered there was warmth and hay awaiting him in the village.

Jason admitted it took him quite a while to learn how to use his fingers and thumbs properly. "I never had such appendages before — how could I know how to use them," he explained. He also revealed how much he must concentrate in order to stand on two legs. Jason spoke about what he called "horse ancestors," who are the collective spirits of all horses who have ever lived, who are alive now, and who are yet to be born. He has since discovered other people who like him have memories of being horses. "Whenever I meet one, the one thing they always say is: 'I thought I was the only one'," he noted. Jason also detailed his health struggle. He has been told his infirmities are likely fatal and to get his final affairs in order. "I know I don't have much time," he said, adding it will be a relief to shed his human husk.


Russia/Ukraine Update

In the first hour, Andrew Colarik reported on Russia's possible cyber-attacks against Ukraine. Around mid-January there were reports about small-scale cyber-attacks (malware) targeting Ukrainian businesses, Colarik explained. "But the reports correspond with all the saber-rattling between the US and Russia over Ukraine," he added. Colarik questioned how far Russia will go to control or disable Ukraine's information and utility infrastructure. He also expressed doubt about Russian actors attacking U.S. infrastructure as they do not know what type of reaction that would trigger from the current administration or NATO.

William Forstchen also commented on the situation unfolding in the region. Forstchen drew parallels between the West's diplomatic efforts to prevent the Russian invasion of Ukraine to Britain's failed policy of appeasement in the 1930s, which allowed Hitler to expand Germany's reach unchecked. Russia can obviously get into Ukraine but what happens after that, Forstchen questioned. "I don't think the Russians have a logical exit strategy at all," he added, noting Russia is like a snake that swallowed a porcupine — the snake is dead it just doesn't know it yet.


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