Hidden Alien Encounters / Wild Horse Advocacy

Hosted byGeorge Knapp

Hidden Alien Encounters / Wild Horse Advocacy

About the show

UFO researcher Robert Hastings' well-respected work involves investigating still-classified UFO incursions at American nuclear weapons sites, and Dr. Bob Jacobs is best known as a UFO military whistleblower. In the first half, they joined George Knapp to divulge their status as UFO/alien experiencers and why both remained silent for so long about their sometimes-terrifying encounters. While on a camping trip in August of 1988, Hastings believes he underwent an alien abduction, and since that time, he's had regular abduction-related nightmares. Buried memories from childhood then came back to him of an incident when he was led out of a cornfield, and found that his entire family was in "suspended animation" when he returned home. Hypnosis confirmed this was an abduction by "grey aliens," he added.

Similar nightmares have plagued Jacobs, and the two both found blood on their pillows upon awakening within the same 24-hour period, though hundreds of miles apart. Jacobs recounted how he revealed UFO footage inadvertently recorded by the Air Force at Big Sur in 1964-- the unknown craft shot down a dummy nuclear warhead using beams of light. Both Jacobs and Hastings have faced severe harassment over the years for their military UFO disclosures. Hastings expressed his reluctance to come forward with his abduction experiences, out of concern that the military witnesses he interviews will find him less credible. "However," he noted, "seven of the veterans I've interviewed are abductees themselves," and reported being taken from the nuclear sites or at other locations later in time.


In 1971, Congress passed, and President Nixon signed the Wild Free-Roaming Horses and Burros Act after determining wild horses and burros were fast disappearing. But now eight times more BLM land is authorized for livestock than for wild horses. In the latter half, horse advocates Jerry Reynoldson and Greg Hendricks discussed new efforts that are underway to humanely manage wild horse populations using the fertility control vaccine or PZP. The BLM, Reynoldson reported, continues to focus more on helicopter round-ups and penning the horses rather than population control. He pointed out that while there are reportedly some 80,000 wild horses on federal lands, that number is dwarfed by the 18 million cattle that graze on them, but the BLM continues to argue that it's the horses that have the most significant impact. He advocated for public/private partnerships to deal more effectively with the issue.

Hendricks, who formerly worked with the BLM on the wild horse & burro program, is now the Director of Field Operations for the American Wild Horse Campaign. He, too, is concerned over the BLM's transporting and holding of the animals, and the favoring of the ranchers' interests. Hendricks said PZP has successfully been used for thirty years to reduce large populations of various animal species, but volunteer groups are doing more of the administration of the fertility drug than the BLM. The two guests also recommended wild horse adoption programs such as the one run by the Mustang Heritage Foundation. Many of the horses are considered quite gentle after being trained.

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