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The Hellier Mystery / UFOs Over Vegas

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Date Host Jimmy Church
Guests Karl Pfeiffer, Connor Randall, Steve Barone

In 2012, Greg Newkirk received an email from a man calling himself David Christie, who claimed that he and his family were being terrorized by unearthly creatures at night. After exchanging emails, David disappeared. For the next five years, the case only got stranger. That was the premise of the first season of Hellier, a self-funded five-part documentary series, now expanded to a second ten-episode season. Karl Pfeiffer (director) and Connor Randall (producer) of Hellier 2 joined Jimmy Church to discuss the case along with why they plan to continue to get to the heart of this ongoing, mind-bending, globe-spanning mystery no matter where it takes them. Pfeiffer described it as "an umbrella paranormal show" which delves into all aspects of these subjects, such as UFOs, aliens, and cryptids. Randall noted that the show seems to have been loaded with and guided by synchronicities, which he defined as "the universe giving you direction."

Randall first got involved with the project, "thinking I was just going to be the audio guy" on the production, but it has taken on a very big role in his life. He described the experience of working on Hellier as "not just a job, it's a lifestyle." Pfeiffer also noted that the second season took a decided turn into the occult, which he defines as "applying intention in a way that manifests results." He added that some show fans mentioned that their pursuit of the mystery seemed to have been "guided" by outside forces and perhaps shadowy figures, one of whom turned out to be old-school paranormal researcher, ufologist (and occultist) Allen Greenfield. Randall noted that the subject matter and incidents in the show can make the stars and crew somewhat concerned, but that their group has learned to "keep each other grounded, even if we don't want to hear it at the time." Pfeiffer concluded that the project has been a kind of "validation to link UFOs with the paranormal and the occult."

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Steve Barone has been shooting video of UFOs over Las Vegas, Nellis AFB, and Area 51 for over five years. He discussed the myriad of sightings he has had in the last few years. Barone recalled his first UFO experience in 2011 at the age of 57 from the deck of a cruise ship near the site of the famous Shag Harbour case in Nova Scotia, Canada, which he said looked to him like "a flying crystal" and was about 200 feet away "at eye level." When he returned home to Las Vegas, he began to have more sightings and decided to record as many as possible. A few years ago, he saw and recorded what he described as a "transparent triangle" flying over Las Vegas. Later, he met a man who claimed to have been a security guard at Area 51 who told him that during his time there, he witnessed something similar.

Barone continues to record what he says are unconventional flying objects in areas near his home. He has software which he says "extracts images from the video," which allows him to examine the frames individually to see if he can detect evidence of airplanes, helicopters, etc. Using this method, he contends that the videos he's posted online have not proved to be mundane objects. Barone recently spoke to a military veteran who was a helicopter pilot in the Middle East who told him that the lights in his recent video are definitely "not a helicopter." As to how he captures so much footage, Barone said that he sometimes gets an "urge" to go outside and look up. He refused to speculate on the nature of the lights and other objects he has recorded, but did express his belief that "ET has been on earth since before man." Related images

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