In the first half, Mars Society founder Robert Zubrin discussed recent developments in space exploration. Regarding NASA's Artemis project, which aims to return humans to the moon, Zubrin expressed skepticism that the project is worthwhile. A manned mission without a clear objective is pointless, he argued, and the introduction of a "gateway"—a space station orbiting the moon—is an unnecessary step in the process. A better use of NASA's efforts would be to prioritize landing humans on Mars within ten years, he asserted.
Zubrin credited the advantages found in the private sector with the most efficient and impressive ways to explore space, as demonstrated by companies like Space X. For one thing, he said, ever-shifting political forces can subject NASA to erratic starts and stops in its programs. Private visionaries like Elon Musk, on the other hand, are constrained only by their own ambition and resources. In addition, unlike government-led missions that propose using expendable spacecraft, Space X plans to employ reusable craft that can expand from moon missions into Mars exploration. The courage and determination of private explorers, he went on, drive them to fund their projects until they succeed, while governments tend to avoid such risks.
Ericka Boussarhane, the guest in the second half, is a clairvoyant psychic who specializes in solving crimes through her ability to communicate with the dead. She related that her talent was handed down through the women in her family, many of whom were intuitives who saw spirits and predicted the future. Similarly, Boussarhane recalled growing up in contact with ghosts, sensing auras and hearing conversations between otherworldly entities. She described her own powers as involving all of her senses. "I talk to, and see, and hear, and taste dead people," she explained, and added that because she is a recipient of a donated kidney, she also carries the dead inside her.
Moving into a haunted house caused Boussarhane realized that she was destined to use her abilities for the benefit of others. After prayer and careful consideration, she came out of her "psychic closet" and devoted herself to her work full-time. Soon, she was offering her services to police departments and individuals, helping them connect to the spirits of people who had been murdered. "At the time, I wanted to be the Oprah Winfrey of the paranormal," she joked. More recently, she created a television show in which features her investigations of crime and other paranormal phenomena. As a person of color, she added, she is particularly attuned to the spirits of Black slaves and Native Americans from America's past.