Financial Crimes / Contact with the Other Side

Hosted byGeorge Noory

Financial Crimes / Contact with the Other Side

About the show

Shaun Hayes was the co-founder and former CEO of Allegiant Bancorp, headquartered in St. Louis, Missouri. Among many other enterprises, he owned a company that he sold at age 44 for half a billion dollars. For years, he was praised as one of the Midwest's top entrepreneurs, but five years after selling his company, he committed a felony. In the first half, he shared the hard-won lessons he learned from his rise and fall. In 2018, he pled guilty to participating in a scheme to defraud a bank and profiting from illegal insider loans, and was sentenced to a years-long prison term.

After selling his company, he made a poor choice by not surrounding himself with good people, he said, and this was one of the factors that led to his demise. Hayes reminisced about his early days in the banking industry and how at one point, he bought a small bank that had more than a million dollars in cash, and he and his partner ended up transferring the bundled currency into the trunk of his car to deliver to the Federal bank. "I don't know how the bumper didn't scrape the road," he quipped. As for other lessons, he noted that when making business decisions, it's vital to look at ethical considerations and risks, and not just the monetary reward.


Author, retired Army Colonel, nurse, psychic, and medium Catherine Nadal trained at the Arthur Findlay School in England and is a certified medium with the Forever Family Foundation. In the latter half, she discussed her paranormal investigations and contact with the Other Side. She detailed how as a teen, she began giving psychic readings through the images of coffee grounds left in a cup after a person drank from it. The reading of coffee grounds and tea leaves is an ancient form of divination. Nadal said she had been the house psychic for many years at the Chance Theater in Poughkeepsie, NY. In a televised reading in the theater's basement, she sensed there was a wall behind the wall, and an old blueprint later confirmed this.

Nadal attended the Lizzie Borden house as part of a paranormal investigation. She perceived the voice of a young woman or girl, and the info given to her was validated by a staff member the next day. But one of the fascinating aspects after the session was that an older teen and his dad said they were somewhat creeped out to fall asleep in the house. She told them to cross their shoes at the side of the bed. The next morning at breakfast, the father said they never slept so well-- folklore has it that spirits don't pass over crossed shoes. Nadal also noted that while deceased spirits may have been gone many years, they still take an interest in the current happenings of their loved ones, and often communicate their concerns or observations during a session. During the last hour, she offered readings for callers.

News segment guests: John M. Curtis, Charles Coppes

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